Thursday, 20 October 2011

is the lds mormon church a cult? susan's review

thanks to susan for this summary of her experiences about the cult-status of the "church of jesus christ of latter-day saints":
 I've been around long enough to know that there are thousands of closet drinkers, porn lovers, adulterers, fornicators, etc. etc. etc. amongst the Mormon population.  If there were really some way to gather true statistics, I think you would find that (as in divorce) the Mormon statistics on all this would fall right in there with the general populations.  I don't think Mormon kids are avoiding drugs and sex.  I have enough older grandkids now to know that they are just more adept at hiding it.

So, if one can assume that what I've just typed is correct, then I would have to say that the added pressures of a perfectionistic religion that controls ever aspect of one's life, demands that money be paid in order to participate in certain church rituals, asks you to promise that you will give everything you have to the upbuilding of the kingdom, doesn't respect woman and never lets them be in control, grossly emotionally abuses homosexuals, expects its membership to agree with and acquiesce to everything that comes out of the mouths of the suits in SLC, robs young men and women of two years of their lives to proselyte no differently than the Moonies on the corner, tries to control a married couple's sex life, teaches the evils of sex so often to young people that they don't have a chance for a normal/sensual/passionate sex life for the first few years of their marriages (and maybe never) ......sounds like a cult to me!

Tuesday, 11 October 2011

What Does Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney Really Believe?

He believes that Jesus is Satan's brother.
He believes that the jewish god yahweh lives near a planet called "Kolob".
He believes in baptizing dead people.
He believes that it was impossible for black people to go to heaven before 1978.
He believes that he is going to become a god after he dies.
He believes he will own his own personal planet after he dies.
He believes he needs to wear underwear created by Mormons and he is never to take it off unless he is bathing, having sex or playing sports.
He believes that 10% tithing is mandatory.
He believes that the Mormon/LDS church does not have to give an audit/accounting of its wealth (estimated $100B).
He believes that Jesus isn't coming back until at least when kids today have grown up and had grandchildren, "maybe even great-grandchildren".

Wednesday, 5 October 2011

mormon "apostle" boyd packer prophesies "the end isnt near" (jesus isnt coming back any time soon)
when the time for "youth living now who have have great grandchildren" has passed and jesus still hasnt come back, church leaders at that time will simply say that packer was speaking as a man, that his words werent official church doctrine. it will mostly likely be exactly the same as cult apologetics' response to joseph smith's failed prophecies:
"Prophets are allowed not only to have personal opinions, or even misunderstandings, but also to express them.  It is up to those who hear the words spoken by a prophet to listen carefully, use their intelligence, and discern with the spirit whether a prophet is acting as a prophet or expressing his own views"

does packer (the senior "apostle") know the following?:
"Sometimes it is obvious when a prophet is acting as a prophet.  "Thus saith the Lord...," "I prophesy in the name of the Lord...," or some similar phrase, are pretty good indications that he is acting as a prophet.  Without some such statement it is not clear whether he is speaking for God or expressing his own views.  That is why discernment by the spirit is so necessary."

of course he does. did packer use any of these qualifiers in his "prophecy" about "the end isnt near"? no. why? because he doesnt really know when the end is coming (you can actually conclude that they KNOW there is no jesus who is going to "come back"). would it seem rational/reasonable/be expected that he would use such qualifiers if jesus/yahweh in fact really had personally and clearly revealed to him that "the end isnt near"? yes.

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