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Saturday, 16 June 2012
"for god will not be...mocked?"
"i'm ron...burgundy?"
Friday, 1 July 2011
mormon missionaries will tell people that you only have to pay 10%
"covenant and promise before God, angels , and these witnesses at this alter, that you do accept the Law of Consecration as contained in the Doctrine and Covenant, in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and ***everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you***, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion."
"mormons only pay 10% (tithing) of their income" is a whopping lie =) the figure is missing a zero--100% (if the church requires it of you)
Friday, 3 September 2010
joseph smith jr - married (sealed) to women not even alive in his lifetime
* Ane Margretha Nielsen, born 5 February 1859 in Onslev, Falster, Denmark. she was born 15 years AFTER he died.
* Dorothy Cotton, born about 1649 in Of, Hampton, Rockingham, New Hampshire, USA. she was born 195 years before joseph!
(i have screenshots of these records, i have seen them with my own eyes.)
these are just 2 of his 239+ wives (helen radkey's research) that have been sealed to him in an lds temple.
see also the helen radkey interview: http://www.whatloveisthis.tv/ep333.htm
oh yeah, and emma smith is sealed to 3 different men:
Lewis C Bidamon
Joseph Smith
Don Carlos Smith
you can check it here:
https://new.familysearch.org/en/action/hourglassiconicview?bookid=p.KWJY-BP8&focus=p.KWJY-BP8&svfs=1
Monday, 2 August 2010
lds changes sacred temple ordinances. lds "apostle" david haight says this is apostasy
we explained briefly the Apostasy and the Restoration: that there is vast evidence and history of an apostasy from the doctrine taught by Jesus and his Apostles, that the organization of the original Church became corrupted, and sacred ordinances were changed to suit the convenience of men, and that today good people all over the world are confused with contending religions with differing doctrine and methods of worship.
11 years later the church would change the sacred temple ordinances by removing the signs of the cutting of the throat and belly (bowels). then in 2005, they have apparently changed (almost done away with) the washing and anointing. see mormon church changes the temple ceremony again?
see also mormon temple endowment ceremony ordinances - Can sacred mormon temple covenants and ordinances be changed?
Sunday, 4 July 2010
transsexuals cannot receive lds priesthood or temple recommend
Persons
who have already undergone an elective transsexual operation may be baptized if they are
otherwise found worthy in an interview with the mission president or a priesthood leader he
assigns. Such persons may not receive the priesthood or a temple recommend.
Wednesday, 16 December 2009
Q. are mormon temple ceremonies taken from freemasonry?
update: maybe and no. read How does one explain similarities between Masonic and temple ritual?
enochian pele ring and lds temple
The Scarlet Letter
Volume VI, Number 1 | March 2001
Play With PELE
Notes concerning the Enochian Ring of Dr. John Dee
by Fr. Sharash
PELEI just came into possession of a full size Holy Table (fixed from the erroneous Casaubon version via Robert Turner). Having never used Enochian in the classic John Dee style, I am pretty excited at the prospect of doing so. It was fitting then that I soon found myself doing a re-reading of Mysteriorum Liber Primus by Dr. John Dee (translated by Clay Holden). Eventually, I got to the part describing the Ring.
Dee writes:
“It shewed to be a Ring of Gold: with a seal graved in it: and had a rownd thing in the myddle of the seale and a thing like a V, throwgh the top of the circle: and an L, in the bottom: and a bar ——— cleane throwgh it: And had these fowre letters in it, P E L E.”
I’ve seen this ring quite a number of times and have always wondered what PELE referred to (aside from a Hawaiian Volcano Goddess and a Brazilian soccer player). Benjamin Rowe, describing the ring states: “The letters PELE (Latin for: he will work wonders) were inscribed in the four corners.” The problem with this translation is that it’s not Latin, it’s Hebrew.
Agrippa mentions in Book III Cap.11 of The Occult Philosophy, “that place in Judges” where the word pele or peli is used in the sentence: “Nomine meum quod est (Peh Lamed Aleph)”; meaning, “My name, which is [Peh-Lamed-Aleph]”. All I found in Dowry-Raines was the word mirabile (miraculous) where Agrippa said PELE should be. Due to this, I thought for a little while that it might just be the English “Aleph” spelled out in reverse—you know—the way Hebrew is normally written, right to left.
My research lead me to an Old Testament Hebrew version of Judges 13:18. There it was: alp, which in any Hebrew-English dictionary or concordance means, “wonders or miracles.” Perhaps to avoid confusion, these letters should be substituted in Hebrew on the ring instead of the Roman letters PELE.
One very interesting thing I’ve noted on the ring is the center design. It is extremely curious that Dee, in the paragraph on the ring says to use a “thing like a V” instead of just “V” in contrast to the very specific “and an L”. But if one notes the way the circle cuts through the V and L; turning the design upside down, the “thing like a V” becomes a thing very much like an “A.” And most have probably already put two and two together and noted that this spells “AL,” a very well known name of God. Again, it is my feeling that this should probably be in Hebrew also.
As an aside, regardless of how Dee translated PELE; my favorite theory is that it may have meant originally to be transmitted as ELEP (Aleph Lamed Peh) in reverse. This makes sense if you consider how Dee spells EMETH, (Aleph Mem Tau), and how some of the Enochian “mysteries” were transmitted in reverse, such as the word SOYGA from the Book of Soyga. Soyga is ‘Agios’ (Greek for “Holy”) spelled backwards. Thus, it would be no surprise to me if PELE were a phonetic reversal of Aleph. The only thing keeping me from buying into this whole cloth is a further message from Michael concerning the ring:
“Wonders are in him, and his Name is WONDERFULL: His Name worketh wonders from generation, to generation.”
In any case, I’m pretty firm in my belief that however you decide to translate PELE, it should certainly be spelled correctly and in the proper language!
my wife asked me "but where's the circle?". after a couple of minutes of thinking about it the answer was obvious: it's the navel/belly button.
read also jim huston's comments:
The symbols on the garments were taken directly from Freemasonry, with the two main symbols being the compass and square. Also Masonic symbols are the honey bee, the all seeing eye, the upright and inverted pentagram, sun stones, moon stones and many others. Freemasonry took many of these symbols from Kabbalism which was 12-13th century Jewish mysticism which was started by the Hasidic Jews in France and Spain.
Albert Pike, in the 1800's recognized that the Masonic traditions came from Zohar (principle texts of Kabbalism), and through that channel he claimed a tie to the temple of Solomon.
>The Kabalah is the key to the occult sciences; and the Gnostics were born of the Kabalists. (Morals and Dogma, p. 626)
(He had it backward, the Gnostics predated Kabbalism by a thousand years.)
>Masonry is a search after Light. That search leads us directly back, as you see, to the Kabalah. In that ancient and little understood medley of absurdity and philosophy, the Initiate will find the source of many doctrines; and may in time come to understand the Hermetic philosophers, the Alchemists, all the Anti-papal Thinkers of the Middle Age, and Emanuel Swedenborg. (Morals and Dogma, p. 741)
>All truly dogmatic religions have issued from the Kabalah, and return to it: everything scientific and grand in the religious dreams of all the illuminati, Jacob Boehme, Swedenborg, Saint-Martin, and others, is borrowed from the Kabalah; all the Masonic associations owe to it their Secrets and Symbols. (Morals and Dogma, p. 744)
Morals and Dogma was the book given to candidates upon receipt of the 14th degree of the Scottish Rite for nearly 100 years. Pike was commissioned by the Supreme Council to take the earlier writings and develop a guide for the Scottish Rite similar to "Duncan's Masonic Ritual and Monitor" by Malcolm C. Duncan (1866), which was the handbook for York Rite Freemasons. Albert Pike was the Grand Commander of the Supreme Council for 20 years.
Gershom Scholem, the foremost expert on Kabbalism in the world has written several books on the subject and has pin pointed the birth of Kabbalism. While Kabbalism was initially conceptualized and has very early roots in France with the hasidut, however the development and writing was done in Gerona and Castile Spain and was not disseminated throughout Europe until there expulsion from Spain in the 14th Century.
Like Pike, Gershom Scholem has also recognized the influence of Kabbalism on Freemasonry.
Joseph Smith was a student of Kabbalism studying under Alexander Neibaur. He had also become a Mason. He felt he had it all under control. The Masons were in part an outgrowth Kabbalah traditions and Kabbalah claimed links back to Adam. Freemasons claimed links back to the Temple of Solomon.
A number of years ago a Mormon intellectual informed us that it was his understanding that one of the top scholars in the church had pointed out to church authorities that the words pay lay ale or pe le el could be translated from the Hebrew language as "mouth to God." This, of course, could be considered to be a condensed version of "Oh God, hear the words of my mouth!" That this translation is plausible can be confirmed by consulting Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary, word #6310—"peh... the mouth." The Hebrew letter Lamed (transliterated in English as l) is often added on the front of words and means "to, at, for" (Hebrew Primer and Grammar, by C. P. Fagnani and A. B. Davidson, page 50). Word #410 in Strong's Concordance is "ale... God (god)." Kyle D. Williams has also pointed out to us that the Biblical name "Lael," found in Numbers 3:24, is translated by Strong (#3815) as "(belonging) to God." At any rate, we were told that the Mormon scholar was so convincing in his presentation to the leaders of the church that they changed the wording of the temple ceremony to "Pay Lay Ale."
In connection with this priesthood JS chose a new name - Baurak Ale which is a transliteration of a Hebrew name, also Baraqi'el, Barak-el, Barkayal or Barakel. This is a Kabbalah name of power. This was the name of 1 of the 7 archangels and 1 of the 4 ruling seraphim. He was known as the "Lightning of God" angel of the month of February and ruled Jupiter. JS was placing himeslf as a equal to Melchizedek as one of the archangels. It is again Hebrew, not the "Adamic language."
I don't have the translation of the third. I do have some further information. The reason that some of the words are not in the standard Hebrew dictionary is that at that time, Smith was learning Sephardi Hebrew from Joshua Seixas, which is a fairly minor dialect.
Tuesday, 15 December 2009
Q. lds temple ceremonies featuring disembowelment and vengeance?
my experience of the temple has always been a place of peace, and i have never felt anything to the contrary. recently i saw a video on youtube claiming to be a temple endowment ceremony (of which i have participated in many times), but it was mentioning horrid things such as disembowelment and slitting of throats and i was like "yeah right, this is completely bogus". but somebody commented that it was like this a long time ago. i asked my mother if it was true and she said yes. then she said that the church changed it because it resembled something from the mafia of that time (these are her words).
i think that if the endowment had still been like this the first time i visited the temple, i would have gotten up and left.
i found a supposed 1937 documentation of endowment penalties which include:
#l we agree that our throats be cut from ear to ear and our tonques torn out by the roots...all bow your heads and say yes.the same page also mentions a law of vengeance:
#2 We agree to have our breasts cut open and our hearts and vitals torn from our bodies and given to the birds of the air and beasts of the field.
#3 Should we do so, we agree that our bodies be cut asunder in the midst and all our bowels gush out.
"Law of Vengeance: You and each of you do solemnly promise and vow that you will pray, and never cease to pray, and never cease to importune high heaven to avenge the blood of the Prophets on this nation, and that you will teach this to your children and you children's children unto the 3rd and 4th generation. All bow your heads and say yes."
i guess my question is: "how could something so contrary to the gospel of jesus christ be taught as a core part of the most holy ceremonies of the church?"
i have not verified this and would like a concrete link to documentation if someone has it.
update: read this penalties article on the fairlds wiki. also How does one explain similarities between Masonic and temple ritual? especially where it says:
Mr. Norton speaks obliquely here. I, however, will be more direct. What Mr. Norton refers to are the penalties (hand actions representing penalties) that were removed from the endowment ritual in 1990. Mr. Norton seems unaware that the endowment ritual has undergone many changes over the years. The ritual is changed to meet the needs of members and to better communicate the endowment to them. Remember, there is a difference between the endowment ritual and the endowment itself. The ritual is not the endowment, but how the endowment is taught--in much the same way that the Catholic Mass is not Holy Communion but how Holy Communion is given to the congregation.
When Joseph was first trying to communicate the truths of the endowment he used a ritual form familiar to the saints of his day. That ritual form was, in some respects, Masonic in nature. As the saints lost their connection to Masonry the symbolic meaning of the penalties and other Masonic elements was lost as well. They became meaningless to all but a few Latter-day Saint Freemasons. So the penalties were removed along with other elements both Masonic and non-Masonic which no longer served the purpose of communicating the truths of the endowment.
i will still like an exact transcription of this portion of the endowment though to review it for myself.

